{"id":144,"date":"2006-10-18T20:20:45","date_gmt":"2006-10-18T18:20:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scrupeda.net\/wordpress\/2006\/10\/18\/144\/"},"modified":"2006-10-18T20:22:17","modified_gmt":"2006-10-18T18:22:17","slug":"frankreich-islamismus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.scrupeda.net\/wordpress\/2006\/10\/18\/frankreich-islamismus\/","title":{"rendered":"Frankreich, die Jugendlichen, die Randale und der Islamismus"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Heute gleich zweimal ein paar vern\u00fcnftige Worte von <strong>John Rosenthal <\/strong>zu Diskussionen, die so gerade keiner (mehr) f\u00fchren mag, oder treibe ich mich blo\u00df nicht mehr genug in den einschl\u00e4gigen Foren rum? Wie auch immer, beim Transatlantic Intelligencer schreibt er \u00fcber die <a href=\"http:\/\/www.trans-int.com\/news\/archives\/75-Still-Sorry-to-Disappoint.html\">Rolle des Islamismus<\/a> f\u00fcr  randalierende <strong>Jugendliche in Frankreich<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A teenager from the French banlieues yelling &#8220;Allahu Akbar&#8221; is no more proof that he is an Islamist than a teenager from Seattle wearing a Che t-shirt is proof that he is a Marxist-Leninist.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Gewisserma\u00dfen den Hintergrund daf\u00fcr liefert sein Artikel <a href=\"http:\/\/www.policyreview.org\/139\/rosenthal.html\">The French Path to Jihad<\/a> bei policyreview.org; ich habe sehr lange keine so erhellende Analyse von irgendetwas, das unter dem Begriff des <strong>Islamismus<\/strong> gefasst wird, mehr gelesen. Er kommt zu einigen wirklich bemerkenswerten Schlussfolgerungen:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As with the subjects of the Khosrokhavar interviews, Moussaoui\u2019s relationship to France is \u201cconflicted,\u201d to say the least. Nonetheless, when, early on in the court proceedings against him and in an apparent gesture of multicultural sensitivity, Judge Leonie Brinkema advised Moussaoui that he would in her court have to abide by rules with which he might be unfamiliar from \u201chis culture,\u201d Moussaoui pointedly replied: \u201cby the way, I\u2019m born in France, educated \u2014 I have a masters degree in international business. I\u2019m fully acquainted with western system of justice, okay?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>[&#8230;] in comparison to the passionate and thickly detailed indictment that Khosrokhavar\u2019s Islamist interlocutors draw up against France, their hostility toward the U.S. has an abstract, theoretical air to it. It is, in short, a matter of doctrine. [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>By contrast, the hatred of France that the interviewees express is clearly a heartfelt product of experience, an experience that has both a historical and a personal dimension.[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>It is important to note that in the most psychologically informative accounts, the primary feeling is of \u201cnot being French.\u201d[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>One of the most fascinating and significant features of the Khosrokhavar interviews is that the mechanism of this transference of hate is clearly observable. Time and again, an inmate, having provided an inventory of the sources of his frustration in France, suddenly announces his intention to purge the full charge of his hatred in fighting against Israel and the United States.[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Could not, then, the entry of French Islamists into jihad \u2014 not against France, but against precisely America \u2014 be rather a last desperate attempt to prove their worthiness of the affections and respect of French society: to prove, in effect, that they, the Islamists, are the better Frenchmen?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Manches an dem Text halte ich f\u00fcr fragw\u00fcrdig &#8211; z.B. die Annahme, die Erw\u00e4hnung von franz\u00f6sischen Rassismus habe &#8216;Alibicharakter&#8217; -, aber er ist es wert, in ganzer L\u00e4nge (er ist ganz sch\u00f6n lang) gelesen zu werden. <\/p>\n<p>Ob ich mir allerdings wirklich w\u00fcnsche, dass die \u00fcblichen Verd\u00e4chtigen \u00fcber ihn diskuttieren, nun ich bezweifle es.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Heute gleich zweimal ein paar vern\u00fcnftige Worte von John Rosenthal zu Diskussionen, die so gerade keiner (mehr) f\u00fchren mag, oder treibe ich mich blo\u00df nicht mehr genug in den einschl\u00e4gigen Foren rum? Wie auch immer, beim Transatlantic Intelligencer schreibt er \u00fcber die Rolle des Islamismus f\u00fcr randalierende Jugendliche in Frankreich: A teenager from the French [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-144","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anderswo"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.scrupeda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/144","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.scrupeda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.scrupeda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.scrupeda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.scrupeda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=144"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.scrupeda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/144\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.scrupeda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=144"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.scrupeda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=144"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.scrupeda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=144"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}